tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post343265494985589224..comments2009-12-09T15:58:10.462-07:00Jeremy Mathewshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09621077450451079253noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-11722810927117052792009-12-09T15:37:59.419-07:002009-12-09T15:37:59.419-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-25937010948136942882009-02-16T19:14:00.000-07:002009-02-16T19:14:00.000-07:00I don't think they know what they mean when they say 'conservative movie'. More than half do not appear to be conservative at all, unless you miss the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-80006293582161409782009-02-16T14:19:00.000-07:002009-02-16T14:19:00.000-07:00Kay in THE GODFATHER PART II opted to have an abortion rather than bring one more of her husband's sons into the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-31080704783394044742009-02-16T12:23:00.000-07:002009-02-16T12:23:00.000-07:00Actually,Master and Commander portrays both Conservative(The Captain) and Liberal ideas(The Doctor).The two men though at times at odds respect and rely upon each other.scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-7949203133876479042009-02-16T12:03:00.000-07:002009-02-16T12:03:00.000-07:00I really thought <I>Independence Day</I> would make the cut.<BR/><BR/>"It's from the Americans! They want to organize an offensive!"<BR/><BR/>"About bloody time...!"Petrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06456112905749679925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-84234116447398500602009-02-16T11:18:00.000-07:002009-02-16T11:18:00.000-07:00The problem with THE INCREDIBLES on the list is that they are forced to live in the closet, denying who they are, something conservatives have never had a problem with.<BR/><BR/>And Juno would be purely a pro-life conservative film, except for these elements: 1) it establishes how much crap Juno has to take from people who look down on her because of her pregnancy, and 2) Jennifer Garner becomes a single (adoptive) Mom at the end, which folks like Ann Coulter have attacked. <BR/><BR/>Braveheart WAS about an insurgency taking down a occupying force, which means that we should have supported the King. But maybe that's the point. Remember, the king threw homosexuals out windows. (Another flaw: torture is proven not to work.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-25541744414905482452009-02-16T10:40:00.000-07:002009-02-16T10:40:00.000-07:00I don't know what conservatives are always whining about. It seems to me that certain genres are already "conservative" in nature:<BR/><BR/>Action movies which, despite the abundance of violence and profanity, always end with "virtue" triumphant end "evil" overcome.<BR/><BR/>Romantic comedies where the characters, even though they may sleep around in the early stages of the story, inevitably end up either married or in monogamous relationships clearly on their way to marriage.<BR/><BR/>Serious dramas tend to be more "liberal" in nature if only because they like to examine the complexity of human nature and human relationships and, thus, don't see the world in the same black-and-white terms that social conservatives do. Yet, when is the last time a character even in a social drama opted to have an abortion rather than completing the pregnancy?<BR/><BR/>And, really, who's going to make a movie in which the corporate power structure wins out over the common worker? There's a reason why "Norma Rae" was a hit. Conservative values just don't make for good drama.buddy51http://www.blogger.com/profile/02120581008320922034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-11707348400388141112009-02-16T10:18:00.000-07:002009-02-16T10:18:00.000-07:00While I can see why Dwight Moody could place "The Incredibles" into the Objectivist camp, I disagree because the superheroes do not go full-John Galt and withdraw their services from an undeserving public. A true Objectivist superhero would whine he wasn't being paid enough and would sit and sulk while a supervillian/terrorist destroyed the city. But the super family jumps into the fray, willingly donating their talents for the benefit of society. If "The Incredibles" is Objectivism, so is Batman, Superman, Spider-man, and even Ghostbusters II (who return to save New York again after being unjustly blamed for the damage in the first movie).Nittanynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-69258017451977702322009-02-16T09:26:00.000-07:002009-02-16T09:26:00.000-07:00You know, most of these movies were alright purely for their entertainment value. Anyone who sees bias in these is looking too far into it.<BR/><BR/>Except for United 93... That is going too far. If the conservatism used to rate these movies is based even a little on the cowardly behavior of their leaders, then I'd have to say the "conservatives" in this movie would be the ones in the back of the plane pissing themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-50072759109872050582009-02-15T14:09:00.000-07:002009-02-15T14:09:00.000-07:00I think they must mean a different Brazil than the one I know. See, the Brazil I saw was directed by Terry Gilliam. And most things directed by Gilliam have a pretty similar theme - something along the lines of greed being bad, collectivism being good, and engorged capitalism just makes hungry people hungrier. So...what's the other Brazil? The one that wasn't a socialist rant?METhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05660042814840589640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-4385844589972381512009-02-14T19:16:00.000-07:002009-02-14T19:16:00.000-07:00Valdemar<BR/><BR/>EXCUSE ME<BR/><BR/>In what deranged non-Plantagenet world was Longshanks invasion and attempted subjugation of Scotland legitimate?<BR/><BR/>This same eejit who hang women from cages outside his castles<BR/><BR/>Who used coercion to obtain oaths, not legitimate in any decent legal jurisdiction.<BR/><BR/>Who was asked to be a fair arbiter, then twisted the very thing he was supposed to be deciding fairly to try and obtain overlordship of Scotland.<BR/><BR/>Wallace may have been deludedly fighting for Toom tabard, but it was no rebellion. Lonmghsanks having been no legitimate authorityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-67958070942995806942009-02-13T13:45:00.000-07:002009-02-13T13:45:00.000-07:00Zucker (An American Carol) must be very, very disappointed. And poor Ben Stein! He's got some angry letters to write. <BR/><BR/>For that matter, how could they pass over Bonnie And Clyde? After all, the banks restore order - it's a happy ending!Danielkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10976799832683250524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-67153036591339961702009-02-13T12:21:00.000-07:002009-02-13T12:21:00.000-07:00They forgot 'Just Like Heaven'--starring Reese Witherspoon as Terri SchivoRedhttp://www.splitnation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-35242703988345173572009-02-13T11:57:00.000-07:002009-02-13T11:57:00.000-07:00Am I the only one here that thought "Heartbreak Ridge" was a good movie?<BR/>I viewed it as a comedy. I mean, c'mon... It had some of the best one-liners in cinema history.<BR/><BR/>"My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you numbnuts put together."<BR/>"Sergeant, you get that contraband stogie out of my face before I shove it so far up your ass you'll have to set fire to your nose to light it."<BR/>"Why don't I bend you over the table there... send you home with the "I just pumped the neighbor's cat" look on your face."<BR/><BR/>Just to name a few.<BR/><BR/>I do get the fact they labeled "Groundhog Day" as a conservative movie. Remember when Murray insisted that it was going to be beautiful weather when in fact, a cold front had moved in stranding them in the little town? That suggested that a traditional superstition outweighed the science of meteorology. You know... faith vs. secularism.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.<BR/><BR/>PogueMahone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-77629609032943273932009-02-13T11:43:00.000-07:002009-02-13T11:43:00.000-07:00Re: Metropolitan<BR/><BR/>Stillman's celebration of privilege and lament for its decline?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-11440976032839878232009-02-13T08:20:00.000-07:002009-02-13T08:20:00.000-07:00"Metropolitan" is actually a sweet nothing of a movie about a poor waiter-type who accidentally gets sucked into the social circle of the super-rich brat pack, and befriends an heiress. It doesn't go much anywhere, and he's still a poor bastard at the end. Don't know how this got on the list except I suppose these rich kids are supposed to be the heroes?<BR/><BR/>"Heartbreak Ridge" isn't Clint's best movie, but don't sell him short; he works in plenty of ambiguity. He does chronicle some bizarre things about Grenada (how soliders had to use pay phones to call in field conditions because the radios didn't work right). The young colonel looks bookish and helpless but he redeems himself with his superior knowledge of the terrain he got from those books, and takes the blame for disobeying an order from his cluster-fuck major. Also a couple Marines do die and he agonizes whether his mistake caused those deaths.Dr. Tim the Firsthttp://www.njcontractlaw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-47484883218422605952009-02-13T07:22:00.000-07:002009-02-13T07:22:00.000-07:00Gran Torino is understandable. Eastwood is Libertarian (although I heard he ran for office as a Repup). I didn't see the film, but from what I got from the previews, it looks like one of the "old white man, still got it, fighting against the evil minorities" bend to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-78481950639046372982009-02-13T02:15:00.000-07:002009-02-13T02:15:00.000-07:00Wow. As a Brit I am again heartily astonished by your GOP loons. Master and Commander? A tale of heroic leadership and defiance of the odds, very British, and in the original story the enemy ship - which gets trashed - is American. <BR/><BR/>Braveheart? As you observe, a rebellion against the rule of Edward Longshanks was certainly not legitimate by the laws of the time. Illegal insurgency indeed. The real William Wallace (in a moment not shown in the movie) did put helpless captives in a barn and set fire to it.valdemarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-61501344801981025162009-02-12T23:37:00.000-07:002009-02-12T23:37:00.000-07:00<I>The Incredibles (2004) - What?</I><BR/><BR/>Sure. The heroes are forced into hiding by lawsuits, which conservatives hate, at least when the litigants are ordinary people.<BR/><BR/>Syndrome's proclamation that "when everyone's special, no one's special" is probably viewed by those morons as some sort of argument against liberalism as well.L33tminionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06072892843237363419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-37133152689584011132009-02-12T23:34:00.000-07:002009-02-12T23:34:00.000-07:00The Dark Knight- I guess they walked out during the ending montage where Batman explains that people's faith in the goodness of others shouldn't be seen as a weakness, then the part where it turns out he actually set up the surveillance machine to be destroyed and reaffirmed Lucius Fox's belief that no singular man should wield such power.<BR/><BR/>Also, the whole looking like a bad guy for the greater good bit? It doesn't fit in the context they're arguing either. Batman was only doing that to preserve Gotham's confidence in the moral fiber of their own society and preserve the image of their public figure, who was a source of morality and honesty, but during the battle with the evil he was supposed to fight he was twisted into a reflection of it. Batman was merely taking the blame for someone's wrong doing to save the city face, and not because he actually did those things. <BR/><BR/>When Gordon was giving that final speech about Batman, they juxtaposition it with Harvey's funeral for a reason; Batman proved throughout the film that he would be the true hero of Gotham because he could 'take it', he may be a vigilante, but he always knew where to draw the line, and would never fall over it. As Joker noted, he 'truly was incorruptible' and would not fail or waver from his morals of justice the way Dent did, which was why he was 'so much fun'.omgwtflolbbqbyehttp://omgwtflolbbqbye.livejournal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-28343231521936032862009-02-12T11:28:00.000-07:002009-02-12T11:28:00.000-07:00Heartbreak Ridge may be one of the worst films ever made. If you haven't seen it, don't. I still don't talk to the "friend" who insisted we see it - that's $5 I could use in the current recession/depression. <BR/><BR/>Mini-plot, DI Clint Eastwood shapes up a bunch of lazy Marines so they can honor our Great Leader (Ronnie R) and invade an island nation that barely has an army (Grenada). The movie assumes its audience is so dumb that, when a colleague of Eastwood's notes that their generation of the military is "0-1-1" in wars, he actually has to spell out that VietNam was the loss and Korea the tie!<BR/><BR/>The "war" for Grenada takes up about 10 minutes of the entire movie, and I don't even think any of the Marines get shot - and the movie is STILL more violent than the actual Grenada invasion. The medical students they are supposed to be rescuing are so scared they actually find one naked in her shower - bathing!CPT_Doomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-10918050137264816892009-02-12T10:17:00.000-07:002009-02-12T10:17:00.000-07:00You could argue that The Incredibles is really more of a satire of Hollywood than American life in general. The Parr family is like a bunch of fresh, exciting projects with real artistry and potential behind them, but they're stuck in a system that wants to dumb them down because it doesn't believe the public can stand to be challenged.<BR/><BR/>Ratatouille poses some questions about Brad Bird's mentality, though, and the Onion AV Club did a writeup on just that:<BR/><BR/>http://www.avclub.com/articles/brad-bird-fauxpopulist,14766/Quinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10665823669624714322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-43745820939071293822009-02-12T09:35:00.000-07:002009-02-12T09:35:00.000-07:00Team America? That movie skewers the War on Terror as much as it lampoons Hollywood liberalism. "You are now safe from the terrorist threat" I guess the folks at NR couldn't see the obvious satire on both sides at work.Neil W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/10748976130608892009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-81877656399307161232009-02-12T03:00:00.000-07:002009-02-12T03:00:00.000-07:00Why the fuck haven't you seen Metropolitan?Whit Stillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3736558133055954649.post-12491783435536721582009-02-11T23:19:00.001-07:002009-02-11T23:19:00.001-07:00Honestly, I think we can take some of the items on this list as evidence that conservative and progressive ideology are not necessarily far apart.Raphaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02986669503985324306noreply@blogger.com